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The Talk

This podcast was created during the CCDE Interrupting Privilege Podcasting Workshop during the summer of 2021. Several students and community members came together to learn how to tell stories using the podcasting medium.

In this podcast, two Black men discuss what it looks like to talk in majority white spaces and how to interrupt privilege in those spaces. In the wake of the George Floyd murder, both men notice how their white friends are hesitant to have conversations out of fear of making a mistake. They talk about how to balance engaging their white friends in patient conversation while also encouraging their white friends to seek out their own reading and education. They both observe how Floyd’s murder has finally opened their white friend’s eyes to see the inequality and finally empathize with the Black experience. Yet, it is also important for the conversations to discuss the real root of inequality rather than overemphasizing policing and instead getting at real structural changes.

I think they now get it. But it has to be sustainable… it has to be systematic and structural changes. It’s not just policing… Policing is a symptom of an overall problem of structural inequality in this country. We’ve been feeling it. It grew up in it.